Use Of 3Rd Political Party Cookies Is Non The Problem
Saturday, March 7, 2015
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The contestation over "third party" cookies, as well as filtering, continues daily.
Today, a weblog possessor suggests that solving the occupation of inability to comment, past times "requiring" each reader to un filter "third party" cookies, is unacceptable - because each reader has to bring action, to solve the problem.
Another weblog owner, call for why Blogger won't ignore his pageviews when visiting his blog, takes solely a span hours to read as well as to diagnose the problem, thence dismisses the advice
Both weblog owners are ignoring the actual problem.
Blogger did non create a requirement called "third political party cookies". Blogger, similar Google, as well as similar around Internet services, purpose cookies to retain information, from each of us, equally nosotros purpose Blogger.
When y'all purpose your favourite website exactly about time, for to a greater extent than than exactly viewing, expect at what y'all are doing.
When y'all purpose Blogger, y'all larn into information on 1 screen, as well as purpose it from another.
You larn into information - peradventure login, peradventure compose a post - on 1 screen. You press "Enter" ("Publish", what receive got you), as well as y'all run into exactly about other screen.
How does the information larn read on 1 screen, thence displayed, on exactly about other screen? You're using HTTP (HTTPS, what receive got you), to communicate alongside the server - as well as HTTP et al is a connectionless protocol. Nothing is stored on the server (so many servers, worldwide), to position y'all from concealment to screen.
There are 2 ways to position you, from concealment to screen.
There are 2 ways of identifying you, from concealment to screen.
Take a expect at the latter solution, first. I'm editing this post - as well as hither is the URL that's used, past times the post editor.
But at that spot is secure content, that solely I tin give the axe purpose (through my browser) - that is person to me. That content is stored on my computer, equally tiny encrypted files, called "cookies". Why such a cute name, for such a serious detail?
Private details - such equally my trace of piece of work organisation human relationship cite / e-mail address, when I logged inwards to Blogger, peradventure my IP address or hardware address - are stored inwards cookies.
Look at the URLs, inwards the address windows, when y'all purpose Blogger.
I login to Google, using a display that runs from "google.com". The adjacent fourth dimension y'all login, expect at the address inwards the browser window. You'll in all likelihood run into the same.
I purpose the Blogger dashboard from "blogger.com". You'll practise the same, when y'all keep as well as position out your blog.
I persuasion this blog, equally "blogging.nitecruzr.net". Since y'all are reading this, y'all are doing the same. five years ago, y'all mightiness receive got viewed this weblog equally "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.com" (from many countries, such equally USA).
Outside the USA, y'all may receive got viewed this weblog equally "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.co.uk" (in the UK), "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.fr" (in France), "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.th" (in Thailand) - or whatever of several dozen other dissimilar countries worldwide, each alongside a complemntary alias.
Where am I going alongside this?
These are all dissimilar domains. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 cookie, created nether whatever 1 domain, as well as read nether exactly about other domain, is called a 3rd political party cookie.
You receive got to trust Blogger as well as Google, to purpose their services effectively.
If y'all are going to purpose Blogger, y'all receive got to trust Blogger, as well as Google. That includes trusting any Google domain - as well as allow them to create as well as read cookies, betwixt domains.
And allowing Google to create as well as read cookies, between domains, requires that y'all - and your readers - allow 3rd political party cookies. This is non the same equally clearing cookies.
All of these activities - as well as to a greater extent than - require that the Blogger script, that y'all (your reader) run, reads a cookie created inwards exactly about other domain. That is a third political party cookie.
Third political party cookies are non a devious plot, to violate your privacy.
Third political party cookies are non an evil plot, past times Google - nor should they require disclosure, inwards a formal banner. Even though they do, inwards Europe.
Third political party cookies are exactly a agency of letting y'all purpose the many Google services - without endangering your security, past times retaining massive amounts of session content inwards the URL, equally y'all purpose multiple displays. When y'all (or a reader) receive got a occupation using or viewing your weblog (or Blogger), 1 of the simplest things to practise is to check / right cookie filters.
Today, a weblog possessor suggests that solving the occupation of inability to comment, past times "requiring" each reader to un filter "third party" cookies, is unacceptable - because each reader has to bring action, to solve the problem.
Another weblog owner, call for why Blogger won't ignore his pageviews when visiting his blog, takes solely a span hours to read as well as to diagnose the problem, thence dismisses the advice
That didn't actually help.
Both weblog owners are ignoring the actual problem.
Blogger did non create a requirement called "third political party cookies". Blogger, similar Google, as well as similar around Internet services, purpose cookies to retain information, from each of us, equally nosotros purpose Blogger.
When y'all purpose your favourite website exactly about time, for to a greater extent than than exactly viewing, expect at what y'all are doing.
When y'all purpose Blogger, y'all larn into information on 1 screen, as well as purpose it from another.
You larn into information - peradventure login, peradventure compose a post - on 1 screen. You press "Enter" ("Publish", what receive got you), as well as y'all run into exactly about other screen.
How does the information larn read on 1 screen, thence displayed, on exactly about other screen? You're using HTTP (HTTPS, what receive got you), to communicate alongside the server - as well as HTTP et al is a connectionless protocol. Nothing is stored on the server (so many servers, worldwide), to position y'all from concealment to screen.
There are 2 ways to position you, from concealment to screen.
There are 2 ways of identifying you, from concealment to screen.
- Cookie.
- URL inwards flow values.
Take a expect at the latter solution, first. I'm editing this post - as well as hither is the URL that's used, past times the post editor.
What y'all run into at that spot is what is passed, from 1 concealment to another. It tells what I'm doing ("blogger.g"), what weblog ("24069595") as well as post ("7677866552420604366") I'm working on, as well as what context I'm inwards ("allposts" , or " · Posts › All"). All of this is world details, I don't heed showing this much.https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=24069595#editor/target=post;postID=7677866552420604366;onPublishedMenu=allposts;onClosedMenu=allposts;postNum=0;src=link
But at that spot is secure content, that solely I tin give the axe purpose (through my browser) - that is person to me. That content is stored on my computer, equally tiny encrypted files, called "cookies". Why such a cute name, for such a serious detail?
Private details - such equally my trace of piece of work organisation human relationship cite / e-mail address, when I logged inwards to Blogger, peradventure my IP address or hardware address - are stored inwards cookies.
Look at the URLs, inwards the address windows, when y'all purpose Blogger.
I login to Google, using a display that runs from "google.com". The adjacent fourth dimension y'all login, expect at the address inwards the browser window. You'll in all likelihood run into the same.
I purpose the Blogger dashboard from "blogger.com". You'll practise the same, when y'all keep as well as position out your blog.
I persuasion this blog, equally "blogging.nitecruzr.net". Since y'all are reading this, y'all are doing the same. five years ago, y'all mightiness receive got viewed this weblog equally "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.com" (from many countries, such equally USA).
Outside the USA, y'all may receive got viewed this weblog equally "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.co.uk" (in the UK), "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.fr" (in France), "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.th" (in Thailand) - or whatever of several dozen other dissimilar countries worldwide, each alongside a complemntary alias.
Where am I going alongside this?
Related:
- "google.com"
- "blogger.com"
- "blogging.nitecruzr.net"
- "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.com"
- "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.co.uk"
- "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.fr"
- "bloggerstatusforreal.blogspot.th"
These are all dissimilar domains. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 cookie, created nether whatever 1 domain, as well as read nether exactly about other domain, is called a 3rd political party cookie.
You receive got to trust Blogger as well as Google, to purpose their services effectively.
If y'all are going to purpose Blogger, y'all receive got to trust Blogger, as well as Google. That includes trusting any Google domain - as well as allow them to create as well as read cookies, betwixt domains.
And allowing Google to create as well as read cookies, between domains, requires that y'all - and your readers - allow 3rd political party cookies. This is non the same equally clearing cookies.
- Login to Google.
- Access your favourite blog, behind a Content Warning.
- Post a comment, on your favourite blog.
- View your blog, without having Stats count your visits.
- Edit a post, inwards your blog.
- Preview a post, inwards your blog
- Preview the template, inwards your blog.
All of these activities - as well as to a greater extent than - require that the Blogger script, that y'all (your reader) run, reads a cookie created inwards exactly about other domain. That is a third political party cookie.
Third political party cookies are non a devious plot, to violate your privacy.
Third political party cookies are non an evil plot, past times Google - nor should they require disclosure, inwards a formal banner. Even though they do, inwards Europe.
Third political party cookies are exactly a agency of letting y'all purpose the many Google services - without endangering your security, past times retaining massive amounts of session content inwards the URL, equally y'all purpose multiple displays. When y'all (or a reader) receive got a occupation using or viewing your weblog (or Blogger), 1 of the simplest things to practise is to check / right cookie filters.
